Roman in Ukraine

Ukrainian athlete on the podium at Baku refuses to turn towards Russian flag during the ceremony of medal awards to winners.

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FYI: There has been US-Ukraine training called rapid Trident since 2009. I’m not sure whether or not it was inspired by the Russian invasion of Georgia. From what I hear, the training in previous years consisted of Ukrainians playing the role of a disorganized enemy for the benefit of US training. In other words, it only provided contact between militaries.

This year, the annual exercise was made bigger, though it’s still modest. 280 Ukrainians have been trained, and there a plans to train another two such groups.

Trust is not sentimental value. It is a measure of the complexity of economic and social relations that can be constructed given the transaction costs that impede them. 50% of the Russian economy is dependent upon oil, and NOT dependent upon Russian norms (“character”). If the economy were dependent upon Russian “character” then the standard of living would return to pre-war levels, and Russians would live as do the Muslims and Mongols whose norms they inherited..

And this is why I’m criticizing your moral equivalency: because you are trying equate things that are not equal. Russia is just another Mongolian, Tatar or Muslim nation with the trappings of Christendom, the trappings of an economy, and the trappings of culture.

Russians are a negative influence on the world and are responsible for more death, suffering, and impoverishment than any government other than Mao’s. Eastern Europe must be free of Mongols, muscovites, Turks, Tatars, and other steppe tribes who would bring their low trust, low economic velocity, to the people of the west. Eastern Europe is European. Muscovites are Mongols and Tatars. Think like and act like Muslims, Mongols and Tatars: steppe and desert people.

Ukraine needs to restore its heritage as a European, not Mongolian/Tatar/muscovite slave pit for despotic rule.

The world is a better place without Russians in it. “Go home.”

Curt on arguing

June 23rd, 2015

So here is the process I use to research (attack) opposing positions.

Your opponent will never agree with you. Your objective is to educated him through repetition, and to eliminate his means of obtaining confirmation, signals, and status from his conceptual peers.

Construct a criticism, and a solution. (libertarianism or Russian involvement in Ukraine)

Look for comment streams with elaborate but rhetorically weak arguments. (rothbarianism or russian moral equivalency).

Watch for a few weeks so that you understand the general arguments that they make. (haunt blogs and fb pages)

Create an aggressive, full frontal attack, in order to draw attention and fire. use loaded language, framed language, every thing possible to inflame the audience.

Use their attacks on you as opportunities to repeat the central argument.

Never show anger. Treat them as ‘cute’. Stick to the facts. Repeat the central argument.

They will try to rally. Try to shame. Try to ridicule. Try ad hominems. Try straw men. And every other fallacy.

Answer every single person who responds by showing their fallacy, then close by repeating the central argument. The purpose of responding is to repeat the central argument and show that they are dishonest in debate.

At this point, after two to five days, you have already succeeded in controlling the discourse, and eliminating the sense of comfort, familiarity and safety that they have on the forum, but now, you want to defeat your enemy completely.

So keep up the attack, and make fresh ones, until they bring in their ‘best’, who will undoubtedly have confidence that he can defeat you. This individual will seek status by showing his dominance. If you defeat this individual you defeat the ‘team’.

At this point, the others will largely drop out except for cheers from the peanut gallery. You now have control of the discourse.

Now that you have someone who can actually conduct a debate rather than rally, shame, ridicule, and throw fallacies, agree with his true and empirically stated points, and repeat the central argument.

Keep this up until you exhaust him.

At this point you have killed the venue as a means of self-reinforcing justification, and yo have probably repeated your central argument a hundred times. And it is now part of their conceptual vernacular.

They will eventually try to ban you. At which point if you have conducted yourself with humor, rather than personal attacks, you can argue that they can’t defend their ideas, repeat the central position.

It’s a yeoman’s labor. But it works. You can accomplish by repetition what you can not accomplish by persuasion.

The music of Peter Skaskiw

June 23rd, 2015

Peter Skaskiw:

I met Peter once completely by chance while travelling in the Carpathians a few years ago. His ancestors are from the same village as my father.

On Wednesday in the journal Nature, two teams of scientists — one based at the University of Copenhagen and one based at Harvard University — presented the largest studies to date of ancient European DNA, extracted from 170 skeletons found in countries from Spain to Russia. Both studies indicate that today’s Europeans descend from three groups who moved into Europe at different stages of history.

First hunter-gatherers 45,000 years ago.
Farmers from near east 8,000 years ago.
nomadic sheepherders from western Russia & Ukraine about 4,500 years ago.

Until about 9,000 years ago, Europe was home to a genetically distinct population of hunter-gatherers, the researchers found. Then, 9,000 to 7,000 years ago, the genetic profiles of the inhabitants in some parts of Europe abruptly changed, acquiring DNA from Near Eastern populations. . . .

From 7,000 to 5,000 years ago, however, hunter-gatherer DNA began turning up in the genes of European farmers. “There’s a breakdown of these cultural barriers, and they mix,” Dr. Reich said.

About 4,500 years ago, the final piece of Europe’s genetic puzzle fell into place. A new infusion of DNA arrived — one that is still very common in living Europeans, especially in central and northern Europe.

The closest match to this new DNA, both teams of scientists found, comes from skeletons found in Yamnaya graves in western Russia and Ukraine.


@ 6:25 — a very Ukrainian moment.

(russian ridicule of ukraine)

What’s your point? That we shouldn’t hire foreigners? We have a government saturated with people paid off by the Kremlin. That’s why we’re engaging in lustration – to purge them and their pervasive corruption. So we are hiring foreigners to help with lustration.

Ukraine has decided it is European. Muscovite Russia has decided it is Mongolian. We all retreat to our roots under pressure. There may be 140M Muscovites, but there are 1B+ westerners, 1B+ Chinese, 1B+ Muslims, and 1B+ Hindus. Russians cannot reform. Russians cannot build a diverse economy. Russia cannot join modernity. We understand the choice. However, we do not want to be prisoners of Russia’s bad decisions.

Russians are foolish. They could have ruled the world. The west wanted them to. Putin was becoming the most influential man in the world. But instead of just saying ‘no democratic revolution here’ they attacked Ukraine, and broke the postwar consensus. All out of fear of spread of democracy.

We don’t necessarily think democracy and hedonism are good things either. On the other hand, almost anything is better than ongoing Russian despotism and poverty.

Haven’t Russians harmed eastern Europe enough for one millennium?

US Congressmen block supply of MANPADS to Ukraine, call Azov Battalion ‘neo-Nazi’


The Azov regiment is “outraged” by statements in the USA House of Representatives

On 10 June 2015, the European Parliament adopted a resolution “on the state of EU-Russia relations”. It is a strong resolution that condemns the illegal annexation of Crimea and Russia’s war against Ukraine, as well as reminding that Russia is “directly or indirectly, involved in a number of ‘frozen conflicts’ in its neighbourhood – in Transnistria, South Ossetia, Abkhasia and Nagorno Karabakh”.

I love these men. I need to find more ways to help.

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