Discussing all E. European countries with @FreedomAlternat

E. European history review. @Freedomalternat visited me in Kyiv, and we discussed every single Intermarium country:

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  1. Beauregard

    There are many such as me who do not subscribe to
    Facebook, Twitter, et. al. The reasons start with security,
    both personal and internet.

    Tell your host, that Youtube is for fast moving entertainment
    not serious discussions as this.

    He needs to create a old style web page with the transcripts
    of these discussions. Maybe he needs the ‘Dragon’ software?

    Many of us read much faster than the spoken word. He losses
    an important segment of his intended audience by not posting
    the words in documents.

    You as the Computer Lizard should tell him that…

    I cannot spend hours listening to what I can read in minutes.
    So, I am disappointed in this posting.

    And I can tell you others are also not sitting for an hour…

    How about a professional academic style presentation to
    educate and persuade?

    The Bible was written and translated for reasons.

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  2. Beauregard

    Why Won’t The Nightmare Dream Of Communism Die?

    A century of Communism achieved four main results:
    poverty, oppression, war, and mass death. So why does
    anybody still think collectivism is ‘idealistic’?

    http://thefederalist.com/2017/11/07/wont-nightmare-dream-communism-die/

    Here are excerpted paragraphs – feel free to read the entire article:

    A century of Communism achieved four main results for the people
    who suffered under it: poverty, oppression, war, and mass death.

    The history of Communism is a history of mass-scale horrors:
    the terror-famine in Ukraine, Stalin’s show trials and gulags,
    the mass starvation of China’s Great Leap Forward, followed
    by the anarchic terror of the Cultural Revolution, the Killing
    Fields of Cambodia—those are just the low points in a list that
    can go on and on. It is estimated that in the past 100 years,
    Communist regimes killed as many as 100 million people.

    The allure of Communism is that it promises to put into practice,
    as a comprehensive social system, two moral ideas that most people
    regard as good and noble.

    The first moral idea is that self-interest is bad and that it is not
    only good but the very definition of morality itself to sacrifice
    your own interests to others.

    The second idea, which is the political consequence of the first,
    is that private interests are bad and need to be subordinated to
    the collective “public good.”

    The crime of Communism is that it took them seriously and
    implemented them fully, all the way to their logical conclusion.
    That is what people don’t want to face up to in the history of
    Communism.

    In the strictly scientific sense, the Communist “experiment”
    didn’t fail.

    It produced a clear result. It took basic ideas about morality
    and politics and tested what happens when they are implemented
    with ruthless consistency. It tested them in one country after
    another, in different cultures and under different conditions,
    and it produced the same result every time.

    We learned that a system based on attempting to eliminate
    self-interest doesn’t lead to happiness. It leads to everyone
    being equally miserable. When you demand that people
    sacrifice their well-being and happiness, how could they
    end up any other way?

    Under Communism there are still a small number of elites
    who take advantage of the system to live in luxury while
    everyone else lives in squalor.

    That leads us to another big lesson of Communism: without
    individualism, there is no basis for individual rights or any
    other guarantee of human dignity. The big mistake people
    make about Communism is to think that it’s just about
    collectivizing property. It’s actually about collectivizing people.

    The next big lesson of Communism is that without individual
    freedom, there is no creativity, just mindless conformity.

    More deeply, though, all of that is missing because in principle
    the needs, desires, and preferences of the individual are not
    supposed to matter.

    That leads us to the deepest lesson of the history of Communism.
    Self-interest and individualism are just ways of saying that the life
    and happiness of the individual human being has value.

    If an individual needs to be tortured for the good of the system,
    or worked to death in the gulags, or shot in the back of the head
    and tossed into a ditch—well, you can’t make an omelette without
    breaking a few eggs, right?

    What Communism taught us is that a system that doesn’t value
    the individual human life does not value human life at all. And
    you cannot value the individual human life without valuing its
    happiness, its freedom, and its private interests.

    The Counterpoint to Communism: The only person who fully
    grasped these lessons was the Russian émigré Ayn Rand. She
    escaped the Soviet Union and set out to revive individualism
    and build a philosophy that redefined the meaning and moral
    status of individual self-interest.

    It’s time to start grasping the moral lessons before we’re forced
    to live once more through the nightmare of chasing the
    Communist dream.

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    1. Beauregard

      The following relates to Ukraine. It needs to discussed.

      Power of Happiness

      “Clemmensen represents a brand of happiness typified in the purpose-driven life of Danes. Like all forms of happiness, it assumes basic needs are covered so that people can pursue their passions at work and leisure. Academics refer to this a eudaimonic happiness, a term that comes from the ancient Greek word for ‘happy’. The concept was made popular by Aristotle, who believed that true happiness came only from a life of meaning – of doing what was worth doing.

      “Gallup measures this by asking repondents whether they ‘learned or did something interesting yeasterday.’ In Denmark, a country that has most consistently topped Europe’s happiness rankings for the past 40 years, society has evolved to make it easy to live an interssting life.

      “Sinapore’s reputation for having a semi-fanatical drive for success, Foo – with all his ambition and accomplishments – represents the ‘life satisfation’ strand of happiness. Social scientist often measure this type of happiness by asking people to ra their lives on a scale of zero to 10. Experts also call this evaluative happiness. Internationally it’s considered the gold standard metric of well-being. Singapore has most dependably ranked number one in Asia for life satisfaction.

      “The researchers who publish the annual – found that about three quarters of human happinss is driven by six factors:

      strong economic growth,
      healthy life expectancy,
      quality social relationships,
      generosity,
      trust,
      freedom to live the life that’s right for you.

      “These factors don’t materialize by chance; they are intimately related to a county’s government and its cultural values. In other words the happiest places incubate happiness for their people.

      “To illustrate the power of place, John Helliwell, one of the report’s editors, found that within a few years of arriving in new place, those who came from unhappy places began to report the increased happiness level of their adoptive home. Seemingly their new environment alone accounted for their increased happiness.

      National Geographic, November 2017, p. 37

      “Norway tops the global happiness rankings for 2017

      http://worldhappiness.report/ed/2017/

      “Norway has jumped from 4th place in 2016 to 1st place this year, followed by Denmark, Iceland and Switzerland in a tightly packed bunch. All of the top four countries rank highly on all the main factors found to support happiness: caring, freedom, generosity, honesty, health, income and good governance.

      “Norway has insulated itself from the boom and bust cycle of many other resource-rich economies. To do this successfully requires high levels of mutual trust, shared purpose, generosity and good governance, all factors that help to keep Norway and other top countries where they are in the happiness rankings.

      “The other countries in the top ten also have high values in all six of the key variables used to explain happiness differences among countries and through time – income, healthy life expectancy, having someone to count on in times of trouble, generosity, freedom and trust, with the latter measured by the absence of corruption in business and government.

      “Happiness has fallen in America

      “The USA is a story of reduced happiness. In 2007 the USA ranked 3rd among the OECD countries; in 2016 it came 19th. The reasons are declining social support and increased corruption.

      Chapter 7 of report comments on ways to restore American happiness. A reading of this chapter illustrates a Marxist view and opinion of causes of decline and ways to improve.

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  3. Walt

    Fantastic discussion, worth every minute to listen to this political-history lesson. Of course, to go to the opposite extreme from communism to extreme capitalism, or Ayn Randism, which the world is moving towards, creates it’s own major problems. Postmodernism is more a product of extreme wealth than it is a communist initiated movement. The movement of society from a traditional base, where financial economics, and Adams Smith’s division of labor, was not extreme, to today, a very efficient economy, this I believe produces the seeds of postmodernism. The left having that seed already planted in them, then promotes that idea as theirs.

    Rock concert goers are some of the happiest looking people while at a concert, but some of the most empty people out there. As long as you can keep getting you next “fix” you are happy. That fix can take on may forms, drugs, music, sports, economic activity etc.

    People like Jordon Peterson have mentioned that one thing that communism and capitalism share is the same value of materialism and that money will solve most all problems.

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