Youth at War

I heard more accounts about the Ukrainians who lived under artillery bombardments of up to 12 hours at a time, some first hand, some second hand. This was common earlier in the war in the areas near the Russian border. They’d get shelled from across the border and denied permission to fire back.

Younger soldiers would break psychologically, climb out of their holes and get killed, particularly when no older men were present to keep them under control.

I’ve encountered this idea of younger men’s psychological fragility before.

In the history of Outward Bound, an American outdoor education program, is the observation that during WWII, when an American ship was destroyed, younger sailors drowned at a much higher rate than older ones, despite their likelihood of being more physically fit.

Also, Ranger School. When I went through in 2001 (in fucking January), it had a 40% graduation rate. It seemed to me that younger students (meaning 19-22) would defeat themselves psychologically. Instead of facing challenges one at a time, one moment at a time, one exhausted step at a time, they’d face the whole of Ranger School, the whole two month program of food and sleep deprivation, cold, exhaustion, and it would be too much. They would break and find a reason to quit.

Lastly, the book “On Killing” whose premise about men’s recluctane to kill, I think, is grossly exaggerated, nevertheless includes some data on how younger men were more likely to suffer post traumatic stress. There must be more modern studies, but I haven’t been able to find them.

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  1. Beauregard

    The winter of relapse?

    You have a mixed audience. Clean up your language.
    Go back and put a mixed company word in your posting
    rather than a word that defeats your communication
    efforts.

    We expect better of you. Do not bring yourself down
    to Putin level.

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    “Always do more than is required of you.” — George Patton

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    I have become disappointed in your man Andrei. He
    lets you spew garbage and hides under bed.

    You need to go find big lady who keeps you in line.
    Since you are into grappling, find large lady wrestler.

    You speak of military training but obviously never learned
    discipline. You relapse into teenager using wrong
    language to gain attention. I hope this is not battle fatigue
    and can be cured?

    Is this what they taught you in writing school? Left wing
    media language? I find no such language in Mises nor Hayek.

    I find no such language in Barron’s blog.

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    Your language made me think of Hillary Clinton:
    “What difference does it make at this point?”

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  2. Beauregard

    Special reply to Roman Korol:

    You are quite right, this is not 1950’s.

    Understand what the term PC embraces.

    Politically Correctness is tool of neo Marxism. It is a
    tool to destroy human freedoms of Western Civilization
    under many disguises.

    Thus destroying dignity and politeness to ordinary
    language communications fits into their agenda.

    Using gutter language and vulgarisms is part of media
    campaign by statist, Marxist and their comrades to
    destroy Western Civilization.

    Language used on this forum can be read world wide.
    Therefore to achieve goals to thwart neo communism
    you must not let them draw you into their morass.

    Since you are posting about Ukraine, find me language
    in the writings of Pylyp Orlyk that are analogous to low
    level words that I refer to.

    No it is not the 1950’s, and you know better too.

    Considering it is American Football season, let me
    offer comments by a football coach:

    “Winning is not a sometime thing; it’s an all time
    thing. You don’t win once in a while; you don’t do
    things right once in a while; you do them right all
    the time. Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is
    losing. I have finished second twice in my time at
    Green Bay, and I don’t ever want to finish second
    again. There is a second place bowl game, but it is
    a game for losers played by losers. It is and always
    has been an American zeal to be first in anything we
    do, and to win, and to win, and to win. Every time a
    football player goes to ply his trade he’s got to play
    from the ground up – from the soles of his feet right
    up to his head. Every inch of him has to play. Some
    guys play with their heads. That’s O.K. you’ve got to
    be smart to be number one in any business. But more
    importantly, you’ve got to play with your heart, with
    every fiber of your body. If you’re lucky enough to
    find a guy with a lot of head and a lot of heart, he’s
    never going to come off the field second. Running a
    football team is no different than running any other
    kind of organization – an army, a political party or
    a business. The principles are the same. The object
    is to win – to beat the other guy. Maybe that sounds
    hard or cruel. I don’t think it is.

    Dictionary is the only place that success comes before
    work. Hard work is the price we must pay for success.
    I think you can accomplish anything if you’re willing
    to pay the price. – Vince Lombardi

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