Ukrainians are having heated arguments with friends and relatives in Russia who don’t believe there are any meaningful bombings of Ukrainian cities, or people hiding in bomb shelters.

A friend of my wife’s was just contacted her relative in Russia, who said 80% of people over here are Nazis, and she was breaking off contact.

Similarly, Russian propaganda seems to be vastly influential in alt-media, both on the left and right sides of the political spectrum.

https://twitter.com/Calthalas/status/1498998318755680260

https://twitter.com/war_news247/status/1499009587382525954

https://kyivindependent.com/national/exclusive-voice-message-reveals-russian-military-units-catastrophic-losses-in-ukraine/

“go f yourself”

“again go f yourself”

“back to Russia go f yourself”

The Ukrainian word for Vodka is “Horilka” which comes from the word “burn” – so it’s a play on words, suggesting Molotov cocktails.

I’ve driven through this exact intersection many dozens of times.

Follow up:

Horlivka has been occupied since 2014. I visited once. It’s a huge, industrial city, very grey. Surrounded by slag heaps.