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  1. elmer

    what is the evidence that these are Putler agents?

    in one city, the Putlerists went to the OPERA hall – mistaking it for a government administration building.

    they were unfamiliar with the city

    good job on the radio, Roman

    I agree with Walt and with Roman Serbyn – these agent provocateurs should not be called “separatists” – they should be called Putler agents, or something like that.

    As far as Putler “protecting” Russians, I’m sure you know the joke:

    “I have stopped speaking Russian in Ukraine”
    “Why, because you are afraid that Ukrainians will attack you for speaking Russian?”
    “No, because I am afraid that Putler will come to “protect” me”

    Telephone call from St. Petersburg to Ukraine:

    “I hear that the fascists have taken over Ukraine”
    “No, so far they have only taken over Crimea”

    In Ukraine, people are free to speak out in Russian
    In the Rasha, people are not free to speak at all

    dezinformatsiya, provokatsiya, maskerovka and agitprop

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  2. elmer

    as far as gun ownership

    the first thing the commies did in Ukraine when they started the forced collectivization of farms, when also included the Holodomor, the Murder by Famine, is to make repeated searches for confiscation of all weapons

    repeated searches

    good job on the radio, Roman

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  3. elmer

    as far as the military in Ukraine

    no question that the sovok mafia and especially Yanukonvikt and his band of thugs gutted the military, which also included placing Russian citizen operatives within government posts

    “if you don’t feed your own army, you will be feeding someone else’s army”

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  4. walt

    Wow, great radio show the moderator and the two guests had revealing comments.

    At the 43;50 minute mark

    The Russian guest was very revealing in her slip up near the end of her interview,
    paraphrasing, “Russsia has no further IMPERIAL AMBITIONS beyond Crimea, inspite of the FEAR mongering in the west”

    I guess I am western, since I fear imperial ambitions of the Moscovy type. She tends to forget Russian and Soviet Russian history.

    The radio show’s moderator slipped in his views, as most NPR people do, around the 43 minute mark, he agreed with the Russian guest that we, [Americans) had the COLD WAR, [ yeah and the Soviets had the warm peace].

    When Iron Curtain Russians dominate and repress, they are peace lovers, when the are suddenly equals in a democratic country, they squeal that thery are repressed.

    Free Russians, like Free Ukrainians, don’t need to dominate and feel comfortable in any fair situation.

    That’s really the issue, FREEDOM VS IRON CURTIAN thinking, not Ukrainian vs Russian.

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    1. elmer

      democracy versus Putlerism

      Putler is not trying to “protect” Russians

      He is trying to protect Putlerism, a brutal, thuggish, kleptocratic, autocratic, corrupt form of enslavement of people

      And he finds people stupid enough – and thuggish enough – to sell out to him

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      1. walt

        I would say a Ukrainian could sell out, and some due, but Russia has a history of dictatorship, criminal or true chavanistic nationalism and people just follow along.
        So it’s not just the leadeship, its their non-western society. Not all Russians of course
        go along. Some say the Russians never got out of the serfdom mentality. Perhaps its, “we let a dictator dominate us as long as we are allowed to dominate other cultures” and therfore they have had a history of invasion and domination.

        If somene doesn’t believe me, just look at a map and see the size of any Eurasian country and compare it to the size of Russia.

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  5. walt

    As to that Ukrainian guest on that showl, suggesting gun ownership is thoughts of a simple man, one who appeals to common sense, not one who has fine elligance or fine intellect.

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      1. walt

        In my comment to your zerohedge article I talked about “ellegant intellectuals” like nevile chamberlain, he said and believed, that, we will have peace in our time”. The non-ellegant winston churhill had common sense, he new there would be war with hitler, he knew we needed guns not paper agreements.

        By the way, besides occasional sarcasim, I do mispell alot.

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  6. elmer

    Walt has provided some comments

    Roman, do you have an rebuttal or comments on what Zaloznaya said?

    She slipped up near the end with her comment that Western coverage is “anti-Russian”

    I also find it incredible that she claims that her parents did not run into one Russian soldier in Crimea – I guess they were “little green men”

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    1. Roman

      To be honest, I couldn’t stomach listening to the whole thing. They said they might have me back on again. I suppose I’ll listen to her comments before doing a second appearance.

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    1. elmer

      at least she admitted the part about Kremlin propaganda

      but she’s “unsure” about Putler Kremlinoid agents infiltrating Ukraine

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      1. walt

        Ed, that link mentions the authors name as Bohdan, the article linked obviously expresses my opinion. I have not commented in the NY times.

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        1. Ed K

          Walter,

          You sound like either a lawyer or politician. That is
          not answering question.

          So specially, which Walter are you? After your answer
          I would say you come from Jersey.

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          1. walt

            Funny as hell. I’m from Philly, good guess. But I spend much of my time in Lviv.

            You know you mentioned the 2 most distrusted professsions. Mentioning those professions implies you think I am very intelligent or very deceptive. I’ve been told I am not very smart.

            Again, though, the link you provided was authored by Bohdan.

            If, you are not a KGB agent and you’re visiting Lviv I’ll buy you and Roman a beer.
            (I’m in Poland right now, plan to return to Lviv next week, not sure for how long.)

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  7. elmer

    I’m wondering why Zalosnaya did not talk about the Crimean Tatars being terrified of Putler’s invasion and annexation of Crimea

    http://www.jamestown.org/programs/edm/single/?tx_ttnews%5Btt_news%5D=42132&tx_ttnews%5BbackPid%5D=27&cHash=ecac0f5f44e18b0e92b0724ac4197515#.Uy2oc5ZOVWE

    Crimean Tatars Fear for Their Safety After Crimea’s Annexation to Russia
    Publication: Eurasia Daily Monitor Volume: 11 Issue: 54
    March 21, 2014 08:58 PM Age: 18 days
    By: Idil P. Izmirli

    On March 21, 2014, three days after he signed the treaty that “legalized” the annexation of Crimea as a new subject of the Russian Federation, President Vladimir Putin officially annexed Crimea. The March 18 treaty was co-signed by the speaker of the Crimean Parliament, Vladimir Konstantinov; the chairperson of the Crimean Council of Ministers since February 26, Sergey Aksyonov; and Alexei Chaly, a Russian citizen and the new mayor of Sevastopol. Chaly’s “appointment” defied electoral procedures when he was simply declared as the “new” mayor by a large crowd of pro-Russian demonstrators gathered in a rally at Naumov Square in Sevastopol on February 23 (http://glagol.in.ua/2014/02/23/20-tyisyach-zhiteley-sevastopolya-vyibrali-na-mitinge-novogo-mera-grazhdanina-rossii/#ixzz2uADvpUTg). Chaly is the founder, CEO and CTO of Tavrida Electric holding, which was registered in Sevastopol in 1990 (http://tavrida-ua.com/company/). The holding makes equipment for Russian nuclear submarines, RAO “UES,” Gazprom, secret military bases of the Russian government, and the National Bank of Ukraine. He also controls the Sevastopol television channel NTC. In 2011, Chaly received the “Faith and Faithfulness” award from the Kremlin for “propagating the glory of Russia” (Forbes Ukraine, No. 2 (36), February 2014).

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  8. Ed K

    Alexander,

    Roman’s comments are supposed to be his and not
    computer generated. The only issue is getting from
    thoughts to print.

    A computer might help solve the equation. He could dictate
    his thoughts via Dragon Speak and edit.

    Or he could write the Ukrainian version of Dragon Speak. I
    suggest he is capable of doing that.

    Roman has had much training in leadership. Now he needs
    to put that to work. So few have walked his path.

    Could you imagine the news blackout of him if he ran for
    Congress in New York City?

    “Audacity, Audacity, always Audacity.” K. Wilhelm

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  9. Roman Korol

    Roman, as a latecomer to this blog I can only echo the sentiment of those who preceded me: that was a great interview; you did a superlative job!

    Further to Roman’s remark re Zaloznaya, for my part I bit the bullet and listened to the whole thing. One could tell she knew she was skating on thin ice all the way thru. What took the cake, for me, was her cretinous comment about her parents reporting that, hey, they didn’t notice any difference that mattered, between “before” and “after” Putler’s Anschluss.

    “No difference”? I have a lifelong Baltic friend whose family owns a property in the Crimea, that they haven’t dared visit since the invasion for fear they would be disposed of in the classic terminal bolshevik way.

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